The Crash of 1929: Are We on the Verge of a Repeat?

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Snipped from alternet.org.

I’ll be the first to admit that I have failed miserably in every foray of mine into the stock market. So, for those who know how to play the game, my hat goes off to you. With the huge loss yesterday in the market, I am wondering if it doesn’t foretell a future disaster in the making. So, with all the negativity in the country from the sub-prime market and housing taking a beating, I am concerned that yesterday may be just the beginning of a true stock market disaster. So when I came across the article in alternet.org concerning a repeat of the 1929 market crash, I just had to read it. The article is extremely well written because even I was able to grasp the dire situation that our “hyper-real” stock market is in. You may find this article will help your understanding of what is really behind this new term, but old strategy, called “naked shorting” and exactly what this means to giant hedge funds of today.

It all begins with an acknowledgment that “the American economy is a hyper-reality that has been engineered by Ph.D.s working hand-in-hand with colluding media multinationals, political officials and some of the biggest names in the business–and the banks that invest in them”. In an age in which 97 percent of stock transactions are conducted electronically, we no longer have a paper trade. Combine that with hedge funds, mortgage-backed securities, subprime loans and naked shorting, you have a scenario in which there are virtual transactions that never actually occur.

When a person “buys” a stock, then the expectation is that that stock is real. But when you have hedge funds who are betting both sides of the fence and in the case of “naked” shorting, in effect, borrow the share (they don’t really own it) to replace it later, then you have created a market in which there are more shares than actual stock. And, that’s what creates a hyper-real economy and conditions ripe for another repeat of the 1929 stock market crash.

Here is a portion of the article that explains this in more detail.

“It’s essentially counterfeiting,” Byrne added. “You’re creating counterfeit shares in the system. It works like this. In a normal stock transaction, you give me money and I give you stock. And not paper stock anymore. It turns out that there is a loophole in the system: When I come to give you the stock that you bought, if I don’t actually have any stock, I can give what is effectively an IOU. Now you never know about this unless you know the right question to ask your broker, but it’s possible that all you really have in your account is an IOU from your brokerage account from a different broker working with a hedge fund.”

It is precisely this imbalance between real and invented shares that Byrne and others argue is primed to explode the subprime collapse into a full-blown economic depression.

“There are a lot of us who think we are living on the edge of 1929,” Byrne continued. “When you consider what’s happened with mortgage-backed securities, you get the feeling these might be the first rumblings. There may be more IOUs in the system than there is liquidity, in which case the entire thing is going to vapor lock as soon as it is exposed. One of the healthiest indications of the vibrancy of an economy is capital formation. Seven years ago, America was responsible for 57 percent of IPO capital raised around the world. Now it’s down to 16 percent. A national disaster.”

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  • Stan Nodvik
    Liars figure, figures lie. I think there may be another big stock market crash, and what's described above makes it seem most likely to be an invisible, stealth crash.

    But my opinion is that the BIG stock market crash will definitely happen right after our national bankruptcy occurs, after China and Japan //too?// stop funding us and call in their outstanding mega-loans. It will be different, I think, this time because put-to-work people digging holes and filling them up again, will be paid with government-issued paper I.O.U.s. Brother, can you spare a dime?
  • On average, we have a bear market about every 2 1/2 years. But it has now been over six years. We are soon to have a major correction. Of this there is no doubt. So the question is, how bad will it be? And if it is real bad, how best to survive it?

    At the very least, it behooves people to get their money out of stocks. It's time for caution.

    It's also time for a new vision for the United States. And to think that William Kristol is declaring how great our economy is in the same breath that he is saying how things are getting better in Iraq.

    If the situation in Iraq rates "Good" in Bush-Speak, then what does that really mean for our economy?
  • I believe greed will finally do this country in. You talk about an economic correction--this country is past due for a societal correction regarding corporate greed. It is killing the middle class and our democracy through out of control corporate influence peddling and a colluding Congress and White House who have a "For Sale" sign on their front lawns. It's just a matter of when not if.

    Thanks for the comments guys. And Greg, you're right--anyone who listens to Billy Kristol needs to have their head examined.
  • Stan Nodvik
    Hey, Unum, we might have had another great depression today just by what happened to the stock market this weekend. What a downer! Some small investors (of most of their money) won't be paying the rent or buying much food. If Bush had had us investing our social security money in the stock market, like he proposed, then there would be soup kitchens again and, of course, "Brother, can you spare a dime?" And the increased number of people, including those without their social security retirement money //in stocks because of Bush// who would be worrying this weekend to see what happens with the market on Monday would be awesome. Then, too, there's the foreign stock markets to worry about come Monday.

    Unum, just how much social security money would have been lost this time on last Friday if it was invested in stocks under the Bush plan?
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  • Bush and his fanatical "privatization" of America is costing us billions in tax dollars. I can't imagine how he justifies the fact that the taxpayers are better off with contractors who, as we all know, have to make a profit and end up in bed with the congressional and executive powers that be. It's insanity.

    With all the power that Wall Street wields, I'm really surprised that his privatization of Social Security didn't succeed. Maybe there's hope after all.
  • Stan Nodvik
    Today's update (Thursday, 9 August) on the stock market: Davey Jones' Locker -- the deep six! Moreover, what happened today in other countries should lead us to consider a world-wide great depression and when, not if. Imagine getting a notice that "You can no longer withdraw any of your money from us!" It's not too late to buy gold, or is it?
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  • Stan Nodvik
    Today's Update: (Monday 13 August) on our stock market and foreign stock markets: Friday and today, the U.S. and several foreign governments have been pumping huge amounts of money into their markets to prevent disaster and steady the world economy. And, of course, they released a coverup, spin story about why. --Lack of ready cash/bank overnight interest rates. ??? And to insure cash is available so you'll receive your weekly paycheck. ??? Give me a break.

    Hello, history to Wall Street. Days prior to the 1929 big crash, the big money private people //robber barons// tried the same thing: pumping in huge loads of money to save the stock market of 1929. Guess what happened? Major Kaka! And The Great Kaka!
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  • Stan Nodvik
    First bailout of sub-prime loans -- Great Britain has done a U-turn on bailout in their country. The Bank of England granted an emergency loan to mortgage lender Northern Rock that caused panic withdrawals. Check out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7002628.stm
    More background info at:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7005557.stm
    and at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7004001.stm

    Our sub-prime loan defaults continue to up, to up, to up the global credit crunch. //the U.S. federal government refuses to grant any bailouts. //not yet, but probably soon//

    And, guess what? Our record sub-prime loans fiasco has laid the foundation for a global depression. One of the major starter-indications that a depression may really happen is the rising price of gold. Yesterday (Thursday) gold went to a 27-year high at $746 an ounce because of a tumbling U.S. dollar. More info? Click on:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/...

    Are you worried now? Don’t know what to do? Then click on:
    http://austincoins.com/confirmation-AEG.htm
    to buy your own gold //recommend American Eagle Gold Coins// I predict that a credit cardholders default will be next, as bad or worse than the sub-prime loan defaults. Oh Gawk! “Hey, Brother, can you spare a dime?”
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  • Stan Nodvik
    First-Bailout Update. The sub-prime loans’ ignited-punk continues to worm its fiery, insidious way into the world’s banking systems. Invading, most likely, the economy next. Yesterday, the dragon worm coiled its way into Great Britain again. Private shareholders learned there will be no dividend next month from mortgage lender Northern Rock; Learned too of hints of a shareholders’ lawsuit re “management’s improprieties.” Millions of pounds were withdrawn by customers in a panic after the government’s bailout announcement. Now the big mortgage lender, Northern Rock, is up for sale and/or wants a takeover. Kid you not! click on:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7014007.stm

    How bad will it be here in the U.S. when the worm turns? U.S. banks and other lenders have been pumping mucho big bucks into loan-lending companies, hoping to score in the long run. Example: Bank of America recently, on a gamble, lent Big Bucks to one U.S. mortgage loan company to keep them afloat.

    Whatever. However. Whenever. Will one or more government bailouts generate panic withdrawals of regular accounts and drag huge banks like B. of A. into the vortex, too? I don’t know. No one knows.

    Worms? Maggots next! by Gawk! What can one do? Buy gold, by Gawk!
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  • Stan Nodvik
    Crash Went NetBank, an online bank with 2.5 billion in assets. Crash went NetBank yesterday (9-28-2007) because of too many mortgage defaults. Those with less than $100,000 deposited with NetBank will be protected by FDIC insurance. The bank had $109 million in deposit accounts over the FDIC limit. Gawk! For A.P. news story in detail, click on:
    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/20...

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