6 Things I Am Tired of Debating
Here is my list of issues that should not even be debated since they are non-debatable. We continue to allow the media, the government and the republican party to allow distractions from what is actually the task at hand. Now don’t get me wrong, I am all for debating, but debating is only good when you are trying to get to the truth. But, when the truth is already discovered and available, what is the debate for besides wasting time and distracting our democratic process?
6. Valerie Plame just had a desk job, who cares?
Okay, this is just an outright lie for people to let this Administration off the hook. Here are the facts:
Valerie Plame Wilson is a former United States Central Intelligence Agency officer who held non-official cover (NOC) status prior to the public disclosure of her CIA identity in an American newspaper. Her classified CIA identity was leaked publicly in a syndicated newspaper column, published on July 14, 2003, by Robert Novak, who identified Mrs. Wilson, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, as “an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction” named “Valerie Plame.”
If you want our government to keep an eye on nuclear weapons of mass desctruction, I suggest that we don’t leak any more covert operatives like Valerie Plame again, as she was responsible for objectives that were concerned with the proliferation of WMD’s.
Bottom line, someone in the administration is either stupid or extremely partisan. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Presidential advisor Karl Rove are the number one contenders that have to do with the leak. There is one more “supposed” source that has not been revealed yet by the original columnist that outed Plame — Robert Novak. All and all, a crime was commited. PERIOD. And, someone should be held accountable. Why is it important you may ask. Well I will just quote The Nation
‘Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career.
If Democrats or anyone else want to continue digging and calling for testimony, then I say go ahead. We need to get to the bottom of this crime. No one should be above or outside the law.
5. Support the Troops.
The conservative party wants to stifle any real debate about this ridiculous statement. When has a nation stopped all democratic processes due to how someone’s feelings might get hurt? Are you kidding me? Look, I appreciate the troops and value their life more than anyone. I don’t even hunt because I value animal life more than my selfish entertainment, so I don’t want to hear that I undervalue the troops.
With all this being said, wouldn’t getting them home to their families early be supporting the troops, making sure they don’t continue being killed for no reason, coming home without legs, arms or sanity? OR, is supporting our addiction to oil, making Exxon $36,000,000,000 in 2005, making Halliburton $22,000,000,000 in 2006 and having this trickle down to our White House Administration more important? We have been lied to for so long, I don’t think we even know our own personal truths to be true. Am I really writing this article? Maybe I should ask my government if this is real?
If the argument is, “Well, if the Democrats stop funding the war, the troops won’t have any support for armor, food, proper equipment.” Hmm, wasn’t that the complaint in the first place when the Republicans put them there in the beginning? Well, maybe I am wrong, but if the Democrats cut funding, then won’t itl be Bush that decides to keep them there with the lack of funding? If Bush veto’s the emergency funding bill, isn’t he the one cutting off funding to the troops? He could always just sign the bill to get his money. But, no, he has to have it his way or the highway.
4. We can’t surrender, then cut and run out of Iraq.
When will it be a good time to leave Iraq? 1 year? 5 years? 20 years? How long are we willing to stay? Do we have a lifetime guarantee that we are offering to the Iraqis? If now is not good, well, then when? Stop saying this without giving thought to the reality of the situation!
We have already lost, because we can't win. How can we win over an ideology? We would have to kill every single fanatical terrorist, and their children before we could even discuss winning. To do this we should just wage war against anything that uses terror to influence people... oh wait, I guess we should wage war against ourselves as well!
If you think by continuing in kicking down doors and fu*king with people and their families trying to cleanse the area of a certain ideological people (fanatical Muslims) is going to help stop terrorism, then you are a freaking terrorist. What do you think is fueling all the terrorism? How about the people terrorizing them?! The longer we continue this aggressive militant path, the more reasons we are giving Arab terrorists to become terrorists. It's a vicious cycle.
Let me tell you a story based on human psychology and what is really happening in Iraq:
Your family is having dinner, and a soldier busts in the door, pushes your mother on the floor where she hits her head on a coffee table, smashes the butt of his gun right on your dad's forehead before stuffing the barrel of the gun down his throat, then tears apart your humble home finding nothing, takes your father away for God knows how long, and you (10 years old) are left crying there for years with your neighborhood torn apart. You are only left with soldiers terrorizing you and not being able to speak English, have no clue what is going on or why this is happening. Your life is hell and it never will be the same. All you have to place blame on is the soldier with a certain flag stitched on his shoulder.
What do you think will become of that child? This child will know nothing but hatred for that soldier who fu*ked up his life for the ideology he was supporting. If this is happening within thousand... tens of thousands of homes, wouldn't you think we were raising a world full of contempt for America, raising impassioned terrorists? So, are you sure we can win, or even have a chance?
Lastly, if you think that by presenting a timetable allows the enemy, who ever that may be, to just wait for that date and then attack, then you are delusional to the fact that they will do that no matter what, how, why or when we decide to leave. How long are we willing to sacrifice our own country, our own men/women, our own children, our own money, resources, technology for another country. Why do we keep allowing one man to override the majority of our entire nation as well as the congress and senate. We are supposed to have a government for the people, of the people, by the people. Where is that government?
3. Global Warming is a lie.
OMG. This one just pisses me off. I will say this as many times as it takes until someone can prove me wrong:
The belief that we have nothing to do with global warming is absolutely preposterous. I am always going back to this simple fact for people, and I have no clue why no one will admit this…
All of the world’s life forms respiring carbon dioxide is part of a closed system. There can be no net addition of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere because the amount of carbon dioxide we exhale can’t be greater than the carbon we put into our bodies by eating plants, or eating animals that eat plants. The plants got the carbon from the atmosphere via photosynthesis.
**The reason why burning fossil fuels is a huge concern is because it is not a closed loop over human time scales. Extracting coal and oil and burning them puts carbon back into the atmosphere that plants removed millions of years ago.**
With this being said, how can we say we are not contributing to this global warming? The next simple fact is that CO2 levels are higher than they have been for the past 400,000 years. See this image!
The reason for this is the closed system. We have released CO2 into the atmosphere that has not been there for millions of years. If we would have never burned fossil fuels, yes, we would still have cycles of global warming with cooling, but we have now introduced a variable (the extra CO2) that has never been there before. So, to say that the earth is just going through its own cycles, and we have nothing to do with it is just idiotic.
Bottom line… WE are contributing!
I have not had one person challenge this. I guess people that think Global Warming is nonsense just don’t like indisputable facts since they are hard to argue against.
2. Terrorists want to destroy America.
Although this is true, we perceive it as something it is not. Why are we the ones that terrorists want to terrorize? Why not Canada, Norway, Holland? Well, because these other nations have not been meddling in their countries for decades or strong arming them to comply with our political demands. From what I understand, it all began when we were a huge player in the creation and support of Israel. The formation of the Israeli State was massively, in the eyes of the Arabs, a crime against their people. Many, many Arabs were displaced from their natural homes. Whether I think this is right or wrong is irrelevant. It is just the fact that America had a hand in its doing.
Then we are constantly coercing them, and applying extreme geopolitical pressure to secure their oil for our energy addiction, feeding money to the elite and taking the countries’ natural resources at the expense of the nation’s people, ignoring their plea for independence and freedom from the US. The many Arabs that hate us don’t hate us because we have a contrarian ideology, or that we represent freedom and liberties, they hate us because we are causing political and physical harm to their country for years on end. If we would have never been there meddling in their nation’s politics, we would not have the problems that we do now. PERIOD! We are the world’s bully.
The terrorists are just fighting back in the only language WE understand, Violence! This is not about anything but communication; all they are trying to say is, “Respect us and leave us alone!” If we would listen, they would stop. If you want to stop terrorism, then stop bullying countries around. Make a political statement apologizing for our atrocities and pull out. Promising never to come back. You would be surprised what treating people like humans would do.
1. Iraq war… Democrats knew all the same information as Bush did and they voted for the war.
Okay, this war was illegally and preemptively waged, period. Let me list the many reasons why Bush and his gang of warmongers were not only completely wrong, but should be tried in international court for war crimes. They also lied about the rationale to not only the American people, but Congress and the UN.
Reasons for waging war in the beginning:
1. Niger was selling WMD ingredients to Saddam Hussein - FALSE/LIE
2. Iraq had biological weapons that had mobile carriers for US attack - FALSE/LIE
3. Iraq and 9/11 were intertwined and connected - FALSE/LIE
4. Iraq had active nuclear weapons labs - FALSE/LIE
5. Iraq had active biological weapons labs - FALSE/LIE
6. Iraq has ties to terrorism - FALSE/LIE
The only reason left to attack Iraq was that Saddam was a bad guy. Oh, and spread democracy [yea, right!]. Yet this was and never will be a reason to wage war on a country. Any debate after this is just ridiculous semantics. What are you going to say? Where can you go without running into the fact that this whole war is and will always be illegal.
If you need to be reminded of what our government has lied about, here is a ton videos catching them in the act of lying. The clip is from Uncovered - The Whole Truth About the Iraq War.
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You are falling for the global warming hype. Check out this video called “The Great Global Warming Swindle”. Manmade CO2 has little or nothing to do with global warming. Get your facts straight
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4340135300469846467&q=global warming swindle&hl=en
Oh someone made a google video. Sweet I was really getting worried there for a moment that all the blatantly obvious signs around me were pointing to the undeniable fact that we are ruining our environment. I mean yeah how could 6 billion people really affect an entire planet? It not like we go around burning stuff just for fun, we burn stuff so that we don’t have to walk. Or we burn stuff so that we have more land for grazing. I mean sure 99.9% of scientists in the field think that we are the cause but they only look at the evidence, they never think to check google video. I mean obviously global warming is a fraud, it was snowing out this morning, it’s april! Oh sure it was 65 for christmas but its cold now! Wait whats that about how not every where will get hotter but it will simply screw up what was considered normal? Eh whatever, google. Fuck the IPCC, google video - it contains all knowledge.
And this is why Justin is sick of debating this. Which is why I don’t bother I simply have fun with sarcasm and some insults. I live far from the ocean and it’s cold, I have less to worry about than most, but I’d still rather not see billions of people die of starvation so that a few companies stocks don’t go down, but its a free country do as you wish, its your choice, your priorities. And we see where they lie.
This wasn’t very friendly was it? Sorry, but thats why it was in the no more debate post.
Calm down Kilgore. Do I need to sedate you again? Ha ha. I understand your frustration.
As far as our friend Dave, there have been many many people that have outed the blatantly corrupt science that these guys in your video have stated. Instead of me going round and round with this argument, like I stated above, how about I just let Wikipedia do it for me. See here… The Great Global Warming Swindle
Aw shucks, I was just havin a lil fun.